COUCH

DNA Test Results

Group 1 R1b1

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17052 Andrew Jackson Couch 1931 12 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 14 13 14 28 17 09 10 11 11 23 15 19 30 15 15 16 17 0 0

24953 Timothy Darren Couch 1931 12 23 14 11 12 14 12 12 14 13 14 28

Group 2 R1b

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7442 Robert Couch 1820 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

5432 Robert Couch 1820 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 20 10 11 11 19 23 17 15 18 16 37 37 12 12 11 09 15 16 08 10 10 08 10 30 12 21 23 16 10 12 12 15 08 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 14 12

5397 Richard R. Couch.. 1816 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 16 17 20 10 11 11 19 23 17 15 18 16 37 37 12 12

102380 Matthew Couch.. 1812 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

7663 Robert Couch 1820 13 22 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

Group 3 R1b

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32659 James & Elizabeth 1760 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 15 13 13 29

28155 John & Rachel 1809 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 16 9 9 11 11 25 16 18 29 15 15 17 18 0 0

7349 Meshack Couch...... 1743 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 14 29

6319 Meshack Couch...... 1743 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 14 29 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 17 18 0 0

8708 Jonathan Couch .... 1781 13 24 14 11 11 13 12 12 12 13 14 29 19 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 29 15 15 18 18 11 11 19 23 15 15 18 17 35 39 13 12

85600 Paul Couch...... . 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 30

5509 David Albert Couch.... . 13 24 14 11 11 14 12 12 11 13 13 30

This was supposed to have been 3 Brothers who came from England to the U.S. Where is his other two brothers. James and Joseph.
#32659 James and Elizabeth probably does not belong in this group. His Haplogroup Is R1b1b2 Which is not the same as the rest. We do need another test on his line.

Group 4 R1b1c

CROUCH

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37475 Will Crouch . 13 23 14 11 11 11 12 12 13 14 13 31 17 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 31 15 15 16 18 11 11 19 23 16 15 18 16 36 38 12 12

83579 David Crouch . 13 23 14 10 13 18 11 15 11 13 11 30 18 08 09 11 11 25 14 20 24 12 14 16 17 11 10 22 22 15 14 15 19 32 33 13 10

141559 Colbert
Lynn Crouch . 13 23 14 10 14 18 11 15 11 13 11 30 17 08 09 11 11 25 14 20 24 12 14 16 17 11 10 22 22 15 14 15 19 32 32 13 10

Group 5 R1a
The R1a lineage is believed to have originated in the Eurasian Steppes north of the Black and Caspian Seas. This lineage is believed to have or iginated in a population of the Kurgan culture, known for the domestication of the horse (approximately 3000 B.C.E.). These people were also believed to be the first speakers of the Indo-European language group. This lineage is currently found in central and western Asia, India, and in Slavic populations of Eastern Europe. <

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7443 Nathan B. Couch 1803
SC 13 24 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

95675 Lee Couch 1803
NC 13 24 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 15 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

6418 James Couch 1767-1840 13 24 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

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Eli SC 13 25 14 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 10 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

95676 Thomas Couch 1756
NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

95343 Daniel Gray . 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

29136 John Couch 1750
NC 13 25 15 10 11 13 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

87588 John Couch 1750
NC 13 25 15 10 11 13 12 10 10 13 11 30

28008 John Couch 1750
NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 29

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5th Co John Couch 1770 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 09 11 11 25 14 19 32 14 14 14 14 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 33 12 11 11 08 17 17 08 12 10 08 11 10 12 22 22 15 10 12 12 13 08 14 23 22 12 12 11 13 11 11 14 13

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Chaney 1765-
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Chaney 1765-
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SC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 17 09 09 11 11 25 14 19 33 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 20 33 39 12 11

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SC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 17 09 09 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 12 14 14 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

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Levi 1765-
1816
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Levi 1765-
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SC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

6457 Samuel Couch 1800
SC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

125135 Eward Couch .
NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 33 39 12 11

5427 William Couch Died
1805 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 33 12 14 14 17 0 0

15320 Benjamin Couch 1770 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0
7725 Moses Couch 1770 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

93274 Leonard Charles Couch . 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

32354 John Couch 1816 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 17 19 33 39 12 11

35475 John Couch 1816 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 17 19 33 39 12 11

35490 John Couch 1816 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 17 19 33 39 12 11

5417 Thomas 1765 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

5494 Jeremiah 1776
VA 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

26475 Jeremiah Couch 1776 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 32 39 12 11

26475 Jeremiah Couch 1776 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 18 19 32 39 12 11

48106 Paul Campbell 1776 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 15 09 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 19 19 33 39 13 12

54731 James Campbell 1776 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 15 09 10 11 11 24 14 20 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 19 19 33 39 13 12 11 08 17 17 08 12 10 08 11 10 12 22 22 15 10 12 12 13 08 14 22 22 13 12 11 13 10 11 14 13

6882 William Couch 1798
SC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

6131 William Couch 1798
SC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 23 15 16 17 19 33 39 12 11

22707 John Couch Of
Ala. 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

6861 Joseph Couch 1750
NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 17 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

16207 Joseph Couch 1750
NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

41554 John Couch
1750 NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 14 11 31 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 31 12 14 14 17 0 0

5530 Joseph Couch 1750
NC 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 31

5490 John Couch 1750 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

82812 Jeremiah ?? 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

17068 Bruce Morrell ... 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

18354 Guy Morrill Maine 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 15 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

19424 James & Karen Bond
Kee ... 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 17 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 11 11 19 22 15 16 18 20 33 39 13 11

00000 ??Wright ... 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 15 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 33 12 14 14 17 0 0

14964 ?? Carter VA 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 12 11 19 23 15 17 18 21 33 39 13 11

18624 ?? Carter VA 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

?????? Robert Hawks VA 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17 0 0

126497 Morris ? 13 25 15 10 11 13 12 10 10 13 11 30 16 09 10 11 11 25 14 19 32 12 14 14 17

N10803 Bobby Dale Couch . 13 26 15 10 11 14 12 10 10 13 11 30

Group 6 R1b

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7976 Thomas Couch.. 1765 13 23 14 11 10 14 12 12 12 13 13 29 17 9 9 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 17 17 11 11 19 23 15 15 19 18 36 38 12 13

6826 Isaac Couch bef 1760 13 23 14 11 11 11 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 9 11 11 25 14 19 29 15 15 17 18 0 0

101774 Kenneth Couch xx 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

6827 Nathaniel Couch 1725 13 23 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

13180 Nathaniel Couch 1725 13 23 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 29 18 9 10 11 11 25 15 19 30 15 15 17 17 0 0

5528 Old Simeon......... 1616 13 23 15 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

75979 Old Simeon......... 1616 13 23 15 10 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29

85896 Richard Crouch . 13 24 14 11 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 28

10982 James Couch 1818 13 24 14 10 11 15 12 12 12 13 13 28 17 9 10 11 11 24 15 19 29 15 15 17 17 0 0

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N16227 Alan Couch............. xx 14 22 15 10 14 14 11 13 11 12 11 29

19947 Melvin Buford Couch............. xx 14 23 15 10 14 14 11 12 13 13 11 30

R1b1b2

5375 C. B. Dodson............. xx 13 24 15 11 11 13 12 12 13 13 13 29 16 09 10 11 11 26 15 19 28 15 15 17 17 10 11 19 23 15 15 19 17 36 39 11 12 11 09 15 16 08 10 10 08 10 10 12 22 23 16 10 12 12 17 08 12 22 20 13 12 11 13 11 11 12 12

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5375 Tony Crouch............. xx 13 22 15 10 13 14 11 16 11 12 11 28 15 08 09 08 11 22 15 20 29 12 14 15 16 11 10 19 21 15 14 15 20 35 36 11 10 11 08 15 15 08 11 10 08 09 09 12 23 24 15 10 12 13 16 08 13 25 20 14 13 11 12 11 11 12 11

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5375 David A. Couch............. xx 14 23 16 10 15 15 11 13 11 13 12 29 17 08 10 11 11 26 15 20 26 11 13 14 15 11 10 19 19 16 16 18 21 34 35 12 10

These are not a match. So I just started a not placed groupo Hold here until we figure out if we can match them with another line one of these days.

Group 8

R1a1

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8824 Dale L. Couch.............. 13 24 16 10 11 14 12 12 10 12 11 31 Edward.............. .

5379 Ben F. Couch................. 13 24 16 10 12 14 12 12 10 12 11 32 Alexander.............. 1814

Dale and Bin are not a match but is very close on the 12y marker, A Distance of 2, So I did not start another line for him.

Group 9

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Jacob Couch/Kentz

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5378 Robert L. Couch............ 12 24 14 10 15 16 11 15 13 13 11 30

5484 H. Wayne Couch............ 12 24 14 10 15 16 11 15 13 13 11 30

37537 Patrick E. Couch............ 12 24 14 10 15 16 11 15 13 13 11 30 17 09 09 11 11 26 16 20 28 13 13 16 16 11 10 19 22 15 15 17 15 33 36 10 09

8357 Jack Couch................ 12 24 14 10 15 16 11 15 13 13 11 30

47012 Jimmy Couch............ 12 23 14 10 15 16 11 15 13 13 11 30

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5075 Old Simeon 1616 13 25 15 10 11 14 12 12 10 14 11 31 17 09 10 11 11 23 14 20 30 12 12 14 15 0 0

This Chart is for the Old Simeon line but William Edward Necklen is not a Couch and this test is not supposed to work for him. I found out he was a Couch Descendant and did not have a family Group to be in, so I had him to join us just so we could see if there could be an advanage from it.
We would like to see othes from the Old Simeon Couch line to take the test.
This one is a distance of 17 from the old simeon. Their closest kin is #5375 and that is a distance of 12.
It is apparent that this line does not seem to be directly related to the other lines tested. There is some evidence that Jacob?s father may have been Casper Kentz who appears in land records for the area around Saxe-Gotha in South Carolina in the late 1700?s. It is therefore possible that a connection might be found with those testing on such surnames as Kauntz, Kaunz, Kuntz, Kunze, Couts or Counts.
The Haplogroup results that each of the groups were given in their test results? I found it extremely curious that our group (Group 9) displays a J2 Haplogroup, which is known to have East Indian, Italian, Siberian Russian, or Arabic (Syrian) strains! This may, in fact, be evidence (I?m not sure) of something I?ve long suspected about Jacob Couch of Greene Co., TN ? that he may have been a Melungeon. This could certainly explain why he?s been so hard to trace and especially that so little is know about the early wives in this line (some are unknown, and with some of the others all that?s known is their maiden names and/or when they were born and/or died)?
Robert L. ?Bob? Couch
Portland, OR
But there is lots more Couch families out there who are not listed on the Couch page. We could still find matches for these others

Comments from FTDNA May 2003
It is obvious from our observation of 1000's of samples that some markers change or mutate at a faster rate than others. While that actual 'faster rate' has not yet been definitively calculated, not all markers should be treated the same for evaluation purposes. Markers 385a, 385b, 439, 458, 459a, 459b, 449, and 464a-d have shown a faster mutation rate then the average, and therefore these markers are very helpful at splitting lineages into sub sets, or branches, within your family tree. Explained another way, if you match exactly on all of the markers except for one or a few of the markers we have determined mutate more quickly, then despite the mutation this mismatch only slightly decreases the probability of two people in your surname group who match 11/12 or even 23/25 of not sharing a recent common ancestor. Note - On May 19, 2003 FTDNA reassigned the values for 464a, b, c, and d. Dropping each by one. Because of a change in Lab nomenclature. These results reflect those changes.

CHEEK DNA project

Kit	Oldest Know Ancestor	Birth year	. . 3 9 3	. . 3 9 0	. . . 1 9	. . 3 9 1	. 3 8 5 a	. 3 8 5 b	. . 4 2 6	. . 3 8 8	. . 4 3 9	3 8 9 \| 1	. . 3 9 2	3 8 9 \| 2	. . 4 5 8	. 4 5 9 a	. 4 5 9 b	. . 4 5 5	. . 4 5 4	. . 4 4 7	. . 4 3 7	. . 4 4 8	. . 4 4 9	. 4 6 4 a	. 4 6 4 b	. 4 6 4 c	. 4 6 4 d	. 4 6 0 .	G A T A H 4	Y C A II a	Y C A II b	. 4 5 6 .	. 6 0 7 .	. 5 7 6 .	. 5 7 0 .	. C D Y a	. C D Y b	. 4 4 2 .	. 4 3 8 .
17052	Andrew Jackson Couch	1931	12	23	14	11	12	14	12	12	14	13	14	28	17	09	10	11	11	23	15	19	30	15	15	16	17	0	0
24953	Timothy Darren Couch	1931	12	23	14	11	12	14	12	12	14	13	14	28

Kit	name	. . 3 9 3	. . 3 9 0	. . . 1 9	. . 3 9 1	. 3 8 5 a	. 3 8 5 b	. . 4 2 6	. . 3 8 8	. . 4 3 9	3 8 9 \| 1	. . 3 9 2	3 8 9 \| 2	Oldest Know Ancestor	Birth year
8824	Dale L. Couch..............	13	24	16	10	11	14	12	12	10	12	11	31	Edward..............	.
5379	Ben F. Couch.................	13	24	16	10	12	14	12	12	10	12	11	32	Alexander..............	1814